Is this correct now ?

Oops, sorry then to get you wrong. 8(

@ Rough: I wasnt having a go at you. I was stating that "Vision Soft" is enough to say that its a different group perhaps. You misinterpreted what I said.

Where do I state this is the reason? I simply know more than you. Vision (NL) was founded in 1988, take a look at the intro scroll and read the greetings, also this Vision Soft was greeted by several groups around 86/87 in their cracks.

The screen shot says "Vision Soft"...thats enough evidence for a new group entry ?!?!?

It's a very different Vision. 100% for sure.

Not much to cheer for.

I'm not sure if this is the same Vision, can anyone verify/deny it?